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Ban on Open Burning in New York State 44 comments

The New York State Department of Environmental Conservation has proposed a statewide ban on most forms of open burning to reduce pollution and wildfires.

The State’s main concern is that more trash and plastics are being burned, releasing increasing amounts of cancer-causing chemicals into the air. Banning outdoor burning altogether could be an effective solution, as regulating materials being burned can be difficult.

Proposed regulations would include exceptions for small campfires, training exercise fires for emergency personnel, ceremonial, religious, and flag retirement fires.

Current restrictions are in place on burning debris outdoors in communities with populations of more than 20,000 people.

Many state residents and farmers, including those in the Adirondack Park, rely on controlled brush burning and burn barrels to dispose of lawn clippings, leaves, tree limbs and agricultural wastes.

Farmers are currently permitted to burn brush and agricultural waste such as feed bags, bale wraps and greenhouse flats, many of which are made of non-recyclable plastics.

Alternatives to burning include trips to dumps, landfills, or renting chipping machinery, which can be costly. Some property owners argue that strict enforcement of ‘no trash burning’ would be more effective than a statewide ban on all burning.

How do you feel about the proposed ban - should New York State place greater restrictions on open burning?

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Comment by Erin Godin Eagle River, AK Aug 6, 2008

As an Alaskan you get used to hearing about burned bans, and I have to say that this one actually makes some sense.

I think that the state should place more strict burn restrictions from the information of this article.

I know that in Alaska we are not allowed to burn large fires in residential areas without permits from the Fire Department, and in the wild we can only have campfires in areas marked for campfires, such as campsites.

The state has definetly benefitted from this as we have seen a drop in the wildfires, so I think that this crack down would be a wonderful idea for keeping the state healthier and safer.

 
Comment by Colin Beck 248 Spring St., Hope Valley, Rhode Island Aug 6, 2008

I completly agree with you. Wood smoke is not that bad, but trash smoke pollutes the already polluted air. We should have a ban on all open fires that are not completely made of wood.

 
Comment by Lainee Homer Aug 7, 2008

I think that they should not ban fires but ban the bad use of them, For ex. not using Gas or and other chemicals to start the fire…

 
Comment by Anonymous Aug 7, 2008

I don’t agree, but they should monitor people

 
Comment by David Frenkil Adirondack Museum Aug 7, 2008

I think it’s a good idea to solve this problem. But if it’s not band it will make our enviroment worse a unhealthy for wild animals

 
Comment by Nanci Jarvis Peru, NY 12972 Aug 8, 2008

Please leave us alone. We do not need more restrictions placed on us. Let’s save lives and work on cell service in the Adirondacks. People are much more important than trees!

 
Comment by Thomas Jarvis Peru, NY Aug 8, 2008

NY state is over taxed and way over regulated. and I might add people cannot afford to live here. I LOVE MY ADIRONDACKS, AND I DO NOT LIKE TO BE TOLD WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO BY A FEW SELF RIGHTEOUS LEGISLATORS.

 
Comment by Joe piseco,ny Aug 8, 2008

they should ban burning trash but they shouldnt ban burning wood fires because it takes away water purifacaiton for hikers and campers and it takes away heat from outdoorsmenand there cooking capabiaties outdoors

 
Comment by laura and paul weick warrensburg Aug 8, 2008

We strongly support the ban! The toxic smoke really bothers us. We have spent hours and hours tracking down the sources of the horrible smoke, reporting it to our local code enforcement and or DEC and often times nothing can be done because of lack of jurisdiction. In addition, because some materials are allowed to be burned, it is hard to enforce or detect when someone burns something that is illegal. We live in the adirondacks because we love nature and “fresh air.” Because of the frequent burning of garbage, our air is unhealthy and unpleasant. Our relatives in cities have better laws to protect them. Whatever it takes to improve our air quality, we wholeheartedly support. Thank you!

Paul and Laura WEick
23 Library Avenue
Warrensburg, NY 12885

 
Comment by Susan Ryder Oneonta, NY Aug 8, 2008

It is important to keep air quality for future generations. I support alternative forms of energy such as wind and water. I want to maintain burning wood for campfires as a way to make camping and experiencing the outdoors enjoyable for people. This will give them added respect for their natural world

 
Comment by Julia Bailey Canton NY Aug 9, 2008

I think that NYS should place a greater restriction on open burning because certain chemicals are being released into the atmosphere and that is doing damage to our earth.

 
Comment by Kelly Carte Queensbury NY Aug 9, 2008

I’m strongly against a one size fits all solution to an unproven problem (all outdoor burning causing cancer)! I would support a ban on burning trash and garbage, but brush, leaves, and grass are natural products. Burning off dead grass in the spring, or leaves in the fall is not going to pollute the atmosphere to any measurable degree. This state already has way to many restrictions on what one can and can’t do, in the name of “big brother” protectionism. Do what’s right for once and enforce no trash burning, and not just what’s easy by just banning all burning.

 
Comment by ALYSON JONES SYRACUSE NY Aug 10, 2008

LOWER THE COST OF LANDFILLS AND PEOPE WILL STOP BURNING

 
Comment by Don Markle Fairfax, VA Aug 10, 2008

We need to do everything possible to pertect the Adirondack’s , but keep it acessable to most uses.

 
Comment by Mary Ashwood Roseboom, Otsego County Aug 10, 2008

I am proud to think that after years of fighting for this legislation both on a local and the state level that it may finally come to pass.

Garbage burning is unnecessary and unhealthful. There are many alternates to burning trash such as recycling, reusing and reducing. Every day too many resources which could be recycled are instead burned. This practice, which affects those who live nearby as well as those who eat dairy and meat products grown in areas where people farm, affects the health of all of us near and far.

Farmers say it will be an economic hardship for them, but this is not so. There are currently agricultural plastics recycling pilot programs which will hopefully soon be in operation and so remove the largest portion of the trash bill: those pesky ag. bags.

For all of our health, let it pass.

Respectfully,
Mary Ashwood

 
Comment by David Kowalewski Cowlesville, NY Aug 11, 2008

This is an unreasonable piece of proposed legislation. People have been burning fires for thousands of years. Instead, people who are found to be burning plastics and trash should be prosecuted and fined.

 
Comment by Liz Redfield Aug 11, 2008

No!!!!
How are you supposed to cook when you go camping and stuff???
It should not be banned more than it already is.

 
Comment by Alex Komanoff beaver pond Aug 11, 2008

burning ruins the air!!

 
Comment by Daniel Komanoff Beaver Pond, NY Aug 11, 2008

no more open burning!!

 
Comment by serena petley indian lake Aug 11, 2008

your Museum is really neat. I have to say i am aganist the burning.

 
Comment by ming lee hague, ny Aug 11, 2008

stop open burning fires!

 
Comment by patricia Ryogan McBride Queens, NY Aug 11, 2008

Yes, yes, we must do all we can to preserve our great wilds!

 
Comment by Anonymous Aug 13, 2008

garbage YES wood NO

 
Comment by James E Knarr Sr Newark, New York 14513 Aug 13, 2008

Yes New York should enforce no trash burning

 
Comment by jerry kolins northville Aug 13, 2008

IF there is a STATE ban, why didn’t the STATE send all residents a notice??? With mass communications so easy, why are we not more informed? ok, so what do we do if we see someone burning trash….barrel or in the open????
jkolins@frontiernet.net
ps…trips to dumps would be good…BUT MOST TOWNS make it very difficult to get a permit…too many restrictions.

 
Comment by r wager poestenkill ny Aug 13, 2008

find something else of more importance and leave small rural areas alone.

 
Comment by Steph Long Lake Aug 13, 2008

I think that banning outdoor burning would be an effective solution. It might be more costly, but it would demote cancer and improve the air quality. I agree that a “no trash burning” purposal would be more advantageous.

 
Comment by Frank Jonahs Lake Placid, NY Aug 14, 2008

Allow the local communities to establish their own regulations regarding burning. To outlaw any burning semms to be the usual overzealous and punitive approach of environmental groups and non-residents.

 
Comment by george wright averill park ny Aug 15, 2008

no more dec regulations

 
Comment by malena murphy 12967 Aug 15, 2008

I think it is a good idea that they ban burn barrows bc of all of the people getting sick and getting cancer n the cause of wild fires.

 
Comment by Karen Ciszak Western New York Aug 15, 2008

As well intended as it sounds, common sense is not being considered as the government involvement often precludes said common sense. Open burning of acceptable materials is necessary in rural, agricultural areas. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that cattle/livestock will someday be banned due to their natural emissions of methane gas as a result of government’s inability to legislate with common sense.

 
Comment by Debra Eichten Ithaca, NY Aug 17, 2008

Composting of lawn clippings and brush is a more effective means to disposed of “yard waste”. Open burning should not be open-ended and inclusive of all materials. There are many more toxins in every use than in prior genreations and thes need to be disposed of properly rather than part of “trash burning” practice. Better yet, acquisition / use of these products should be eliminated. We need more consumer edcuation about the issue and more consumer activism to eliminate the source of these pollutants.

 
Comment by John Freed Perkasie, PA Aug 17, 2008

I think this is a great idea. Fires are a big part of the reasons we are loosing forests in the area. Fire saftey is our job!

 
Comment by Stepnanie Vader Adirondack Museum Aug 17, 2008

It is a wonderful place because I like the things. The things are so great. There are many alternatives to burning and burning is dangerous and releases toxins into our air.

 
Comment by Kristen Long Island- Camping in Adirondacks Aug 17, 2008

I think that they should ban burning garbage, but not open fires. If it really does cause cancer, then sure this is a necessary law, but you have not proved that yet.

 
Comment by mike hammond knox ny Aug 18, 2008

The proposed band on open burning is too restrictive. Much of the yard waste being generated in rural communities can and has been safely burned for years.
It is when individuals do not take into consideration the effects of burning garbage and let it smolder for days that become a problem. Burning of yard waste and brush should be allowed in rural communities by both the individual and the municipalities.

 
Comment by James Racquet East Syracuse N.Y. Aug 18, 2008

This ban is not nessary

 
Comment by Shelley Lanctot Mendon New York 14534 Aug 18, 2008

I drive through many areas in Wayne county on my way to work.Households are still burning trash and garbage instead of participating in formal refuse collections. The morning sunrises reflect the heavy hanging aftermath of this careless waste disposal.

 
Comment by Jake Collins B.M.L. NY Aug 19, 2008

camping yes, other no.

 
Comment by Sarah New York Aug 19, 2008

I think it’s bad for the enviornment. I think it should stop.try your best to get it to stop.

 
Comment by sam unknown Aug 19, 2008

cancer causing chemicals are not good- so it is good that open burning is banned-
it is also good that what you burn is limited- not trash- but brush and feed bags- what the farmers burn.
new york should keep burning trash and plastics burned- but still permit natural things- like brush, tree limbs, and other natural materials be burned. otherwise, these cancer causing chemicals could kill and sicken several people-
this is good for the health of the people and is good to help keep new york green

 
Comment by max old forge ny Aug 19, 2008
 
Comment by tiffany staten island Aug 19, 2008

it is a very bad thing 4 the enviorment

 
Comment by gebtha alabama Aug 19, 2008

I agree with the states concer